Battle Report: Chaos Marches to War and Returns with Support

Saturday my FLGS held a 1,650 Warhammer 40K tournament, and I had brought along my Chaos Space Marines, Disciples of Twilight. It’s a list I had been practicing with for the better part of the previous four weeks. I set myself the task of sticking with a list, refining it, but not changing it completely week-to-week as I’m prone to do. The list I brought was this.

Disciples of Twilight (Chaos Space Marines): 1,650

HQ

  • Maelstrom (Sorcerer) – Psyker (Mastery Level 3), Combi-bolter, Force Weapon, Terminator Armor, Spell Familiar

Troops

  • Vengeance (Chaos Space Marines) x 5 – Veterans of the Long War, Plasma Gun
    • Aspiring Champion – Melta Bombs, Combi-plasma
    • Rhino – Dozer Blade
  • Redemption (Chaos Space Marines) x 5 – Veterans of the Long War, Meltagun
    • Aspiring Champion – Melta Bombs, Combi-melta
    • Rhino – Dozer Blade
  • Cultists x 10 – Autoguns, Flamer
    • Cultist Champion – Shotgun

Fast Attack

  • Spawn x 2 – Mark of Nurgle
  • Spawn x 2 – Mark of Nurgle
  • Spawn – Mark of Nurgle

Heavy Support

  • Forgefiend – Ectoplasma Cannon x 3
  • Devastation (Obliterators) x 3 – Mark of Nurgle
  • Havocs x 10 – Veterans of the Long War, Autocannon, Missile Launcher x 3
    • Aspiring Champion – Melta Bombs

Formations

  • Mayhem Pack
    • Deathcry (Helbrute) – Power Fist, Missile Launcher
    • Hellscream (Helbrute) – Power Fist, Multi-melta
    • Helbrute – Power Fist, Multi-melta

Tournament Results

I’m just going to glaze over the tournament; it was a rough day for Chaos. My first game was against a double Skyhammer Annihilation force, need I say more? My second game was against Necrons. Much like my first game, I got pinned into my deployment zone fighting close combats. Being unable to move around to achieve anything I needed, I took another loss. My third game was against Ultramarines and a bike heavy list with Assault Marines. The game started out with me taking a solid lead, and dismantling the bikes slowly but surely. Mid-game Dave had turned it around, and clawed back into the fight, whittling my army down. When the game ended it was a draw. Easily the best game of the day.

I went 0-2-1 for the day. I pretty well expected to lose all three games, so better than anticipated. I didn’t get tabled once, so there’s a positive…

To say I’ve had a rough go at 40K for the past 6 months is really putting it lightly. The thing about routinely losing is that is really zaps your motivation. I love the hobby, but taking beating after beating dampens that element for me as well. When I find myself with time to paint, or build new models – like the Mauler/Forgefiend I’ve had for weeks now, I’m just not interested. I see it as another model I’ll put a ton of effort into (hobby-wise), and see no benefit from on the table. I don’t need to win to have motivation. I’m just tired of showing up for a game and feeling like I’m not even participating. That the game has been dictated already by my opponent, and I’m just a casual observer.

Help has Arrived?

Chaos Knight TitanAfter the tournament, Turner (who won best sport), made me an offer. He would put his winning towards me purchasing a Knight Titan. The store I play at has a rewards program. When you show up for events you get a stamp on a card. You can get 10%, 20%, and 30% off products with the card once it’s been stamped enough. I had a 30% off card, and Turner was going to contribute his winnings, how could I say no? So, I walked away with a new Knight Titan. The other great part is that Turner had already given me the Chaos Knight upgrade bits from Forge World a few months ago, just in case I ever got a Knight.

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I did start building the Knight on Sunday, and last night I began cleaning the resin upgrade bits. The carapace resin is super greasy, so I’m going to give that a good soak again and hope it comes off. Anyone have any tips for cleaning overly greasy resin parts?

Next Tournament

The next tournament, in February, is a 1,750 one. Right now I’m working through a list that’s Chaos Space Marines with Khorne Daemonkin allies. I enjoy both armies, so time to see if I can make them work together well considering my collection. The Knight Titan will be in the list, and hopefully it can help turn around my luck.

  • Sorry to hear it didn’t go so well. It seems to be the way for Chaos these days. What have I let myself in for!

    Good guy Turner. Everyone needs friends like that. Get him to move to Ireland!

    • Nobody has played Chaos for a good long time because they’re competitive, that’s for sure. You have to love the models and fluff to get behind them.

      Turner does stuff like that now and then for people. I’ve seen him buy a kid a Heldrake, someone else a Riptide, Tau codex, you name it.

      • Send him over here, more good guy vibes needed. Good to see he won as well after all that.

        • If we send him to you, then what are we to do? ;)

          • Fair point and lets be honest, he might not like being battered about. Just let him know of the despair of this poor Irish gamer :P

  • I clean my resin with dish detergent and a toothbrush. Takes a while to scrub everything and then rinse but works pretty well by my standards :)

    • That’s what I tried last night. I let it soak for a few hours first too. Think I’m going to try letting it soak in Simple Green for a bit this time.

      • The Simple Green soak will work. Soak once, scrub like he’ll, then soak and scrub one more time with FRESH Simple Green. The mold release fouls the Simple Green, so you need fresh stuff each time, unlike when you’re stripping paint with it.

        • Good to know. I’ll give it a shot.

  • Yeah, playing CSM is 40K on hard mode these days. A Knight does a great job of kicking things up for pretty much any Army, tho, and they’re great kits to build and paint, too.

    • No argument here!

      I am looking forward to getting the Knight together. Overall I’m looking forward to painting it too, but I know it’s going to take me a damn long time to paint. I’ll just have to work on it in stages so I don’t get burnt out on it.

      • True dat. They’re huge models and do take a lot of time. But they’re really cool ones, so I found it relatively easy to keep myself motivated.

  • Castigator

    Chaos is a hard task master, one that appears to enjoy our despair just as much as our enemies ;-)
    A Knight certainly helps our cause and keeps us within touching distance of the newer dexes.

    For cleaning resin, I use washing up liquid and an old electric toothbrush. Personally I’m not a fan of leaving them to soak for any length of time as my theory is that resin is quite porous and will inevitably soak up traces of the detergent. This can also stop the paint from sticking. For particularly greasy resin, I wipe them after washing with meths (methylated spirit) which isn’t as harsh as white spirit. I’ve also found that handling resin as little as possible until I get the primer on helps as resin soon picks up the natural oils from your hands.

    • Chaos has always been fickle at the best of times. I don’t foresee a Knight fixing issues, but if I can at least stay in the game then I’ll be more than happy.

      I’ll see how this next cleaning process goes and evaluate from there. Where do you get the methylated spirit at? Hardware store I’d imagine?

      • Castigator

        Yeah, most hardware stores sell it, it usually has a purple tint to it (to stop people drinking it), but don’t let the colour put you off ;-)

        My experience (admittedly limited) has shown that the knight is great for helping out against units that CSM have traditionally struggled against. Chaos Marines are pretty solid once they have something to lead the way and the knight is one of those units that can actually force your opponent to react to your moves instead of the other way around.

        • Don’t let the color put me off…so I can drink it? ;)

          I’m leaning on the Errant to help bust up armor, something I find I always have a hell of a time doing.

          • Castigator

            I went with the Errant for that reason. My Noise Marines and Heldrake can deal with AP3 and light armour but I’ve always struggled with AP2 and armour 14.

            • Exactly. A rapid firing Battle Cannon is great, but it’s hard to pass on a S9, AP1 large blast.

              • Yeah, I was going back and forth, but the more I thought about it, the more I figure that most of the stuff the Battle Cannon is really good against, Flesh Hounds can also handle pretty well, while the Melta gives me some extra punch against really hard targets.

  • Do you get the rules for Chaos Knights from IA13? Can you run all four or five variants? Is that the old kit or the new one with the fist and AA guns?

    • They are on the FW as experimental. Chaos only has two versions, the Paladin and Errant. The old/original kit.

      • I’m really hoping they get the full spread, including the Cerastus ones. I really want to do a Slaaneshi Castigator as a tribute to the old Hell-Scourge.

        • I’m sure in time we’ll see them. They aren’t exactly fast at giving Chaos anything though, so I imagine it will be a while.

  • Wow! The kindness of strangers. Clearly Turner is a true gentleman and my hat goes off to him. Good luck getting your mojo back and hopefully the Knight puts a pep in your step.

    • Turner is a great guy.

      Here’s hoping on the Knight.

  • Being on the losing streak is rough. I think the Chaos Knight will be great, especially if you play it as a KDK Khorne Knight. I would go for the Paladin, longer range and higher rate of fire should yield more blood tithes. Chaos do the midrange pretty good already with ectoplasma forgefiends and multimeltas from obliterators and helbrutes.

    • The beauty of course is that I will magnetize the weapon for either option. I don’t think one of the weapons is superior to the other, it’s just a matter of what extra a particular list needs. I plan to get plenty of practice with both weapons :)

  • Turkadactyl

    I just recently played a tournament and I can’t remember seeing CSM. No GK either.

    • CSM are a tough army to play these days. The people I know who play them are those who love Chaos, definitely not people after a competitive army. I haven’t seen any GK where I play in a long time, and I feel they are in the same boat; in need of an update.

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